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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Where were Ann dodd and johnny Gibbs when Margaret died? I would have liked to hear their version of the events of that fateful night.  Did Hal and Matthew dodd die before or after Margaret?  Mark adores Ann dodd, so what did she mean when she said she could never be his mother? Did she mean she could not be a substitute for Margaret? Or that she could be fond of Mark,  but he would never be her child?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Unanswered Questions Reply with quote

In the Visitor    Lucas said Anne Dodd took care of Margaret and also her ailing husband.

and that her husband and son died shortly after (Margaret)

I love this episode  especially since Chuck wrote it.  when Lucas is telling Mark about his Mother and that there was Something Special about her.  there is such LOVE in Chucks face.  you can tell he was a very loving man

when he mentions Something Special     I think about the song Something Special Mark sang.

no mention Of Johnny  Gibbs     was he probably off doing a rodeo or something?   also I wonder how close Sam Giibs lived to them.  did he visit often?  he sounded like a no account.  he left for medicine and did not come back

about Anne leaving   I wonder if she loved Margaret so much that she could not fill her shoes.  and she KNEW how much Lucas loved Margaret.  but those kisses........sigh    I need my vapors

I think Mark would have accepted her....after all she made her own trout flies and she didn't check behind Marks ears
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wowww - So many intreresting questions and comments in this thread.

I'm sure Lucas would be forever grateful to Ann Dodd for helping him take care of Margaret during her illness.  Lucas had mixed feelings about Ann.  He knew he would probably never love another woman the way he loved Margaret.  It was obvious Ann knew how much in love Margaret and Lucas were.

During the first 3 seasons - Lucas wearing his wedding ring served it's purpose for me. Every time I saw that wedding ring - I thought of how much Lucas loved Margaret.

Being a man (and a whole lotta man) Lucas needed romance in his life.  

Side Issue:  I think there's a striking resemblance between AnnDodd/Christine White and June Lockhart.  Yes - Timmy and Lassie's Mom.  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Christine White and June Lockhart separated at birth. Hey maybe in The Vision Mark didn't get sick on the water in the barrel, as he really didn't swallow much, but on the cheese sandwich and blackberry jelly sandwich she offers him. Those sandwiches were not refrigerated.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:30 am    Post subject: Unanswered questions Reply with quote

good points from everyone

I have to correct myself.....I said Sam Gibbs did not come back.  He did come

back but it was after he went on a drunk and when he returned Margaret had

already died and was buried and Lucas had left.

side note....does everyone know that John Anderson was actually a year younger than Chuck in real life?  hard to believe.  many times he played an older man but even when he did not play an older man he still looked much older than Chuck.  or maybe it was Chucks gosh darn good looks that made the difference!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Lucas and Mark left soon after Margaret died , how did Lucas learn about Matthew and hal's death?   Was Ann angry Lucas was not around to help her as she had been helping with Margaret. Was Ann the one to tell Sam about margaret's death?  Lucas left because his heart was broken, but in old man running , he told Mark he was going to kill Sam, but realized Mark was his priority. My guess is Lucas never cared too much for Sam and tried to plan something with Mark whenever Sam was over.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think Cora seaver and Mr. Bullock opened a library or bookstore? Was Adele adams completely honest when she said she thought of Gary healey as just a friend?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had Ann dodd been as in love with her husband as Lucas had been with Margaret?  Interestingly, she never tells Lucas what she felt about Hal or if she is willing to risk her heart for Lucas and Mark?  Lucas looks appreciatively at other women and even falls for some occasionally,  but Mark is the true love of Lucas's life . As much as Mark wants Lucas to remarry, I think sharing his pa would get old real fast. Plus, I think Millie, Lou, Ann, and Julia knew they would end up playing second fiddle in the McCain trio.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Markisdg,  you made me think of something when you gave "liar liar" as a background song in the tune thread. Was Harry Chase maybe lying in another way when he told Millie his wife and son had died of cholera? Did Harry perhaps have a wife and child who were very much alive?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Unanswered questions Reply with quote

Random   I doubt Mark ever got his own room or learned to play poker or even learn good card tricks.  I think his skill was only checkers

You wondered if  Anne resented Lucas not helping her with her husband as she had helped with Margaret.  good point    maybe Lucas helped her till he left.  I would think he had to sell the ranch first before heading out west with Mark

Markisddg   I totally agree with you about Marks body growing but his mind regressing.  That was one of my big concerns.  they would not let Mark grow up.  I wonder if Johnny was getting disappointed about his scripts although he had signed up for another year

Johnny was SO good in the Ordeal and he was only 13
Johnny was SO good in the Vision and he was only 14
Johnny was SO good in Wyoming story and he was 15

and then in Two ounces of Tin  when Johnny is 16   I had great hopes when Mark said he would pick up the badge from the dirt and go after him.  Go  Mark  GO

BUT in Sidewinder when Johnny was 17   he regressed again.  "I'm not allowed to use a handgun"    gads

and how old did Mark get on the show?  Mark was 10 when they arrived in North Fork and later he was stated as 13.  was Mark ever stated as being older than 13???????

Mark was older and did not have to push his face in Lucas chest and Lucas did not have to hold or carry Mark now but its like the writers did not know what to do with Mark at this stage,  the show would have still been The Rifleman about a widower and his son but let the son grow up. I guess a season 6 would have been awkward

Johnnys roles on the show we're better when he was younger and as a child actor he cold handle an entire episode well.  they should have let Mark enter adulthood at least so Lucas would know he had   'raised the Boy right"

I actually had to see Mark grow up in other roles like in Big Valley as a deputy and Little House on the Prairie and the Branded episode he was in with Chuck and Johnny was a deputy again and also in El Dorado

too bad we did not get to see that on Rifleman
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't Mrs dodd say Lucas left without saying good bye?  I am not sure.lucas told Mark he wanted to kill Sam.                                               Re Mark not growing up emotionally and regressimg: I would imagine Rifleman was one of the first shows to treat mental and emotional problems respectfully, i.e. Abe Lincoln.  Lucas reprimanded Mark for referring to Mr. Lincoln as loco.  It seems to me that the powers that be were trying to show Mark on the verge on an emotional breakdown,  but could not quite get there.when Lucas comforts Mark after the nightmare in conflict, the scene is stilted and awkward. Miracle at requiem springs was an attempt to capture the old magic.  In my opinion,  Mark's paralysis was psychomatic. Notice how he recovered after Lucas gave him a good talking- to.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Unanswered Questions Reply with quote

Yes Lucas left without a goodbye but I think we can assume Anne knew he was leaving.  another goodby would have probably been too painful.  they had both lost SO much...Margaret and her husband and son

its nice to note that the last several episodes it looks like the writers were trying to wrap things up somewhat or do their best writing.  the story about Sam Gibbs....and forgiveness, Marks paralysis was a good episode for Johnny to shine...an episode about love and faith,  Old Tony let Mark sing and shine as he was a recording artist then.

there were some pretty good episodes in the last 10

but gosh...............I wanted more
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did Hal and Matthew dodd die before or after Margaret?


When do they say Ann Dodd's son's name is "Matthew" during the show? I've only ever heard her refer to her son as "the boy".

I'm in Canada so maybe they edited where they say his name out??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:56 am    Post subject: Unanswered questions Reply with quote

Yes   can you tell us where Annes husband and sons name was mentioned

Lucas refers them to Mark as   her husband and son.  when Lucas said the husband died he also said....so did their little boy

Chuck wrote The Visitor and It is one of my favorites,  those kisses were great!!

i think I need my vapors
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:09 am    Post subject: Unanswered Questions Reply with quote

Okay   answering one of my questions

Anne Dodd said to Lucas     "Hal loved the outdoors"  but I do not see where her sons name was mentioned
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have been mixed up. I think Ann and hal's son was only named Matthew in Michelles excellent retellings.
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Why did Lou have to bring in girls from Denver?  When she bought the hotel from Eddie  , did the staff quit? Did she fire everyone?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie didn't have the same type of operation that Lou was planning.....
If he had, he wouldn't have sold.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Myyyyy!   Lucas with Elizabeth Black?????

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have loved to see Lucas fall in love with elizabeth Garrett black -not just in lust.  That would have been a great conflict for lucas
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re the martinet: after mark threw the rifle to lucas and their tender moments, d8d lucas unground mark?
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did Hal and Matthew dodd die before or after Margaret?


When do they say Ann Dodd's son's name is "Matthew" during the show? I've only ever heard her refer to her son as "the boy".

I'm in Canada so maybe they edited where they say his name out??

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